REACT SERIES PART 2 – ON THE RUN: Flight Response: Understanding Escape and Avoidance

Last week, we talked about fawning—the response where you appease to survive. This week, we're exploring the opposite: flight. The urge to escape. The compulsion to run.

If you grew up in an abusive home, flight might have been your lifeline. It might still be. Today, we're breaking down what flight looks like, why it happens, and how to heal from a lifetime of running.

Transcript

Welcome And Quick Check In

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Hello, welcome to Terror to Triumph. I am your host, Alfonso Pelt, and this is my lovely co-host, Storm. Storm, how are you doing tonight? I like this. She got the big smile on y'all. That's what's up. She's doing it.

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I'm doing lovely.

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Okay. Glad to hear it, Storm. Glad to hear it. Tonight we got a good episode for you guys. This is part three of the React series. This is going to be talking about on-the-run, flight response, understanding escape and avoidance. So we have a lot of information for you tonight. As usual, everything you could use right now to help you understand yourself and the environment around you, how you deal with it, and how to cope.

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Upcoming Guests And Survivor Stories

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okay? We have Saturday, May 9th, Dr. David Marcus. He's a psychologist. He will be with us. He's also a survivor. He's going to tell us his story, how he was able to leave the veil of darkness and shame and guilt and regret, and how he overcame that and learned to turn his life over into being a healer and helping people. Also, Saturday, May 16th, Tracy Smaldino, a survivor and host of the podcast Trauma Rock Stars, she will be with us sharing her story of how she went from terror to triumph, how she overcame her traumas, and she has an amazing story, you guys. I don't want you to miss either one of these people. I'm going to keep lining up guests for you guys because it's a lot of information that they have. And as they come, I'm going to share it with you. I told you, as soon as I get the information, I'm going to divulge it to you guys so you can have a better understanding of not only yourself, but how you deal with the world around you and also avenues to get the help that you need. Okay?

Flight Response Explained Clearly

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Now, without further ado, last week we talked about fawning, right? The response where you appease to survive. This week we're talking about exploring the opposite flight, the urge to escape, the compulsion to run. If you grew up in a in an abusive home, flight might have been your lifeline. It might still be. Today, we're breaking down what flight looks like, why it happens, and how to heal from a lifeline, a lifetime of running. So, what is flight, right? Flight is the body's instinct to escape danger. Black people, we like to say they got some rabbit in them, okay? You run, you flee from danger, right? So, according to Rain, R-A-I-N-N, that's the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network, the flight response is one of four primary trauma responses. And it's automatic. It's not a choice. It's deeply rooted in your nervous system. When you're a child in an abusive home, flight might mean physically leaving, running to your room, hiding in the basement, going to a friend's house. But as an adult, okay, flight looks different. It's avoidance, it's distraction, it's the constant urge to move, to escape, to be anywhere else but where you are. According to Old Vineyard Behavioral Health, the flight response involves the urge to escape or run away from the traumatic situation. Individuals may feel anxious, panicked, or reckless. Your body is literally flooded with adrenaline, a stress hormone that prepares you or compels you to run. Here's what's happening neurologically. When your nervous system perceives a threat, it activates your sympathetic nervous system, the gas pedal, if you will, right? So your heart rate increases, your breathing becomes shallow, your muscles tense. Does that sound familiar to anybody? Have you been feeling that way? Blood flows away from your digestive system and towards your limbs, preparing you to flee. For a child in an abusive home, this response makes sense. Running away could mean safety. But now as an adult, you might be running from things that aren't actually dangerous. Relationships, emotions, commitment, vulnerability, stillness. All of these things you could possibly be running away from that won't harm you. So I think I'm sorry, go ahead.

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Flight doesn't always look like I'm not air, I'm air going, but flight doesn't always look like physical running away. It's more stable than that. Let me break down what flights look like in adulthood.

How Flight Looks In Adulthood

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Physical flight, you have trouble sitting still. You're always busy, always moving, always on the next thing. You may exercise compulsively, work excessively, or constantly rearrange your life. Stillness feels unbearable. Emotional flight, you avoid difficult emotions. When sad, sadness, anger, or fear comes up, you distract yourself. You norm yourself with substance, food, shopping, social media or work. You don't let yourself feel. Relational flight, you leave relationships when they get too close. You sabotage good things because intimacy feels dangerous. You keep people at arm's length. You always ready to exit. Mental flight, your mind races, you can't focus, you're constantly planning your escape route. Even when you're safe, you're catastrophic about worst case scenario, so you can prepare to flee. Avoid flight. You avoid situations that trigger anxiety. You don't go to certain places, you have certain conversations, you build your life around avoiding triggers, which actually makes your world smaller and smaller. According to research from the attachment project, children who experience trauma and develop a flight response often connect to assist in hyper-arrow static hyper-arrowed states as adults. Your nervous system is always scanning for danger, always ready to run. The tricky part, flight often feels productive. It looks like ambition, independence, self-reliance, but underneath is fear. Belief that if you stop moving, you get too close. If you let yourself feel, something bad will happen. Well, light coming into the street.

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And it comes with a real cost.

Avoidance Paradox And Real Costs

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When you're in a constant state of flight, your nervous system is chronically activated. According to the CPTSD Foundation, this hyperarousal can lead to anxiety disorders, sleep disturbances, and difficulty with emotional regulation. Your body is literally running on fumes. There's also what we call avoidance paradox. The more you avoid something, the more power it has over you. I felt that. Feel that sometimes still. So if you avoid conflict, conflict becomes scarier. If you avoid intimacy, intimacy becomes more threatening. If you avoid sitting with your emotions, those emotions become more intense. And then there's the relational cost. Flight often shows up as ghosting. That's a term we're all familiar with, right? Sudden exits or emotional unavailability. People in your life might feel abandoned or confused. They don't understand that you're not running from them. You're running from the feeling of being trapped, of being vulnerable, or of being seen. According to the research from the National Child Traumatic Stress Network, children who survive through flight responses may continue to struggle with commitment, trust, and sustained relationships. The nervous system learned that staying is dangerous. Leaving is safe. There's also a spiritual cost that you guys really didn't think about this part. Flight keeps you from being present. You're always somewhere else in your head in the future, planning your escape. You miss your whole life when you're living. While you're living it. That's kind of weird, but it's true. I can see that. Here's the hopeful part.

Practices To Heal A Running Pattern

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Flight is a learned response. And what's learned can be unlearned, right? So your nervous system can learn that you're safe, that staying is possible, and that you don't have to run.

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So how do you feel from a lifetime of running? Here are the core practices. First, notice the urge to flee. When you feel too impulse to leave a relationship, a conversation, a feeling, pause. Don't judge it. Just notice. Ask yourself Am I in danger or does this feel familiar? Second, practice staying. Start smile. Stay in a conversation five minutes longer than you want to. Stay in a feeling for one more breath. Stay in a relationship drew one conflict. Your nervous system needs evidence that staying doesn't kill you. Third, develop distress tolerance. According to the dialectical behavior derpy, DBT, the stress tolerance skills help you sit without discomfort, without running. These include the TRPP skill, temperature, splash cold water on your face, intense exercise, P calced breathing, and P prepared muscle relaxation. Fourth, build safety signals. Your nervous system needs to know you're safe. This may be a person, a place, a ritual, or a granny practice according to the poly poly vagal theory. Your vice nervous, which regulates your nervous system, responds to safety clues. Create them intentionally. Slow down intentionally, meditation, yogurt, or simply sitting in nature can help down regular, regulate your nervous system. You're teaching your body that stillness is safe. Six. Sick trauma-informed derpy. Derp is like symptomatic experiencing or trauma-focused, CPT, specialized specifically address how flight is stored in your body. A good derpist can help you process the original dread and build new neural pathways. Seven. Reframe stain as strength. Stain is not weakness. Stain is courage. Stain is the ultimate act of healing. Choosing to be present. You've been running to be vulnerable. To be seen.

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You can stop now. It's safe to stay. It's safe to feel.

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Remember, you're not broken. You survived.

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And now you're learning a new way to live. Understand that self-care, it isn't selfish. And that taking care of yourself is honoring your own healing. Now, before I close out, I just want to go back over what we just discussed.

Childhood Flight And Adult Triggers

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You guys, when I think about flight, I did have flight in me initially. I would run for my parents when the whoopings would come or the abuse was about to start. I was running. But because I didn't have anywhere to run to. There were times I ran down the street, but I would get caught, or I realized I had nowhere to go. So I ended up coming back home because I didn't know where to run to, and I was afraid. Also, the abuse from me running was even more severe. And that broke me out of running. You ever been in a situation where you've been physically abused so much that you want to run, but you're afraid of the consequences of running, even though you know you're about to get beat again? That type of situation. So fleeing, I know, is a response mechanism that does keep you safe. And people laugh, people make fun of it. We see the memes on social media where kids run away from parents whooping them and all that kind of stuff. But that's not because they feel like it's a joke. The kid's not looking at it like that. The kids looking at it like they don't want to get beat. And maybe they have been getting beat to the point where it's not just punishment, but now it's abuse. That could be a sign of a bad parent when your child runs like that. I mean, no child wants to be reared. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes that type of punishment is acceptable when done the right way. But we tend to run innately because there's something we're running from. And that that is something that we cannot tolerate. The fear of being tortured, abused, whether it's physically, sexually, as a child, you want to run. You're gonna run initially, unless the fear is just so overwhelming that you freeze. This is uh kind of giving me some goosebumps thinking about this because it's bringing up some stuff I haven't thought about in a long time. Storm, is it is this resonating with you at any? Is it making you feel something that or stirring something in you that you haven't felt in

Storm On Ghosting After Abuse

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a while?

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Oh, well, my abuse, I didn't, I have to, I wasn't abused as a child. I was, my abuse came as an adult. You know, my abuse came from the trauma of relationships and learning how to get along in relationships, in other relationships and not carry the baggage with me because of the abuse of that relationship. And this abuse, I think it became after the derpes, you know, after I had derpy. So now I was trying to figure out, you know, do I ghost everybody? And I did for a long time. I think I didn't have a relationship for I think three, uh, three to four years, you know. So because it hunt, it was a hunting, how do you deal with it? You know, how do you, you know, not hurt nobody's feelings? And so rather than to hurt people's feelings, a rather to put up with a lot of simple things, everybody, I just would, I didn't want to ghost people, so I prefer not to just be in relationships. As a matter of fact, I was running from a relationship in 1999. In running from that relationship, the person was running, like, not gonna let you run. And I think that's what made me quit ghosting and quit running. Because that person was willing to run after me. And if that person wouldn't have ran after me, everybody, I probably would have still been ghosting people.

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So dealing with flight response, as we talked about tonight, how did you, how did you come out of running? Or when was it that you that you found yourself running or or realized that that was a a reaction to trauma?

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Give you my number, but I it wasn't necessarily that I didn't I knew that I didn't have to answer you back. It was just like, I was like, I'm gonna give you my number because I just want you to get up on my you know, I just want you to leave me alone. You know, but when that person called and it was just something about this particular person. And he was not like everybody else. You know, you always have that one person that's gonna be the artist. And he was the odd ball because I was going through a lot, you know. Like I said, when you in a abusive and you don't fall, because I fought for six months. Some people fight for four to seven years, you know. I fought for just six months. And after six months, I was like, I'm tired, I don't want to fight anymore. And I think I told everybody that, you know, it was a bush driver that saved my life, you know. But I was running because I and I didn't know that it was domestic violence or domestic abuse at that time, you know? And I didn't know that I was in a domestic situation. I just knew that we fought every day. You know, we fought every day or every other day. But it was about stupidity, weird stuff that you shouldn't even be fighting about. I see four nine, this person was 265 pounds 63. And you imagine somebody just trying to bully you around and fight you, you know, hit on you because they want what they want, and you're not willing to give it give them what they want. And I had to fight. I had to fight. You know, I'm not gonna say that I didn't take no licks, but I gave a whole bunch. And I didn't, my licks didn't show because he didn't try to damage my face. That's the good part about it, you know. But he still hit me in areas that damaged me in way, damaged me in a lot of ways, you know. I never forget I was at work and I was changing because I was trying to hurry up and change clothes because I was always running because I would have to run, and I kept clothes at work just in case I had to run. So I was changing, and I think a coworker came and they seen like the bruise like on the side, because I had a big bruise on the side. And I was, you know, trying to hurry up and slip on it. Like, can you explain? I said, I don't want to explain it right now, you know. I didn't tell them that it wasn't none of their business. I just said, I don't, you know, I care to not explain it right now. You know, you wouldn't understand if I did explain it to you and you're not gonna help, you know, if I explain it to you, or you're gonna help me, or you're gonna help get me out of this situation. Everybody can say that they on your team, but are they really on your team when you tell them, hey, this is what I'm dealing with? Do you really have that team? Do you have that person that's gonna be really there rooting for you, like the therapists, like the people that's supposed to be there? Are you really gonna have your cheer team? Are you really gonna have the people that's gonna be there for you? To be honest with you, everybody, not unless they really somebody that grew up with you, a childhood best friend, or whatever, you don't have nobody rooting for you. You don't have nobody on your team. You are by yourself. You know? But I had one person and I cannot discuss it, but they came forward and they helped me. And I owe that person. I love that person if you're out there and you're watching. I love you for what you did for me back then. But yes, it hurts everybody. It hurts because it hunts you. It cuts you like a knife. And yes, you can go and pretend because I pretend. I dressed up, I made up, I made up like I was in relationships and everything, like I had it going on. I didn't have nothing going on, people. Nothing going on but a ghost, a ghost for a person. Because I didn't have nobody. But I was like, oh yeah, I'm happy. Did you say, you know, I'm with this person, da-da-da-da. But with nobody, I was putting on a makeup, I was glowing, like I had it going on. People, I didn't have nothing going on. But tears that was being poured on the inside, a pen and a pad, they kept writing because that's the only thing that's how I could vent.

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You sound like, you sound like Remember we talked about a couple of things out of the list that you had mentioned, like uh relationship or relational flight, the mental flight, the avoidance flight. So when when those things came up, you you were out. Like like like you discussed with the phone situation. You gave your number out to talk to people, but it was like, nah, I'm not feeling that. I'm not answering when you call. So that was like a way of you keeping your arm out, like to keep people away from. Even if they got close enough to ask you, just to avoid the argument, that was more of a relational, that was more of a relational and avoidance flight, because you avoided the situation that could potentially bring anxiety.

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Yeah, cuz yeah, because it's like, huh, here got my number, you know, and you know, leave me alone. You know, that's what it was, you know, like, huh, here got my number, but you know, like, leave me alone because I'm gonna ghost you anyway. I don't have to answer. Because you didn't have cell phone people. You had a regular house phone back then. You didn't have a cell phone, so I'll be like, I went home, I didn't hear it, you know, I was asleep, you know. So I had all I had every excuse in the book not to answer no phone. And I had every excuse to ghost you because we didn't have cell phones back then. So I was really, really, really ghosting you, but it was one person that just said I wasn't gonna ghost them. And even when I got with them and I was like, okay, this is not gonna last long. I'm not gonna worry about this. This gonna be like, you know, you know, he ain't gonna, he, he, you know, he ain't gonna do what I want him to do. He ain't gonna be there like I want him to be there for. But you know what, everybody? Well, you know, one person changed that. My little baby changed it. My little baby grasped a hold of that person. I was like, I was mad, you know, because I was like, you know, babies can tell the truth because they can tell you who they don't want in your life and who they want in your life. Babies know what's real and what's not. But she was gravitating to this person. I was like, ugh, I was like, and I'm like, well, how dare you like this person, you know? You know, because mommy was gonna ghost this person, and this person did what nobody else would probably would have did. That person took the time for my daughter, you know, and he took my daughter under his wings, and that's how my daughter became a gamer. How do you teach her one yo how to gay? A one and a half-year child gay because you you done put a remote control in her head, and you done taught her how to gay. And I thought that he was just putting on a front because I was like, he got my baby with a remote control in her head, like she really doing something. And he said, No, she really playing the game. I had to sit there, everybody, and watch. And he taught a one, he taught a one-year, my baby was just a one, maybe a year and two months, maybe a year, two, three months, baby. He taught her how to play Mario. Mario, you know, where you had to hop over stuff and do stuff. He taught her how to play that. I'm like, Lord have mercy to us, you know? So but that's what made me kind of like him, because I was like, No, we have no other choice, not the ghost to us, you know. It kind of made she is the reason she was the make a break. Everybody, she was the the make a break, and that's how she broke me. She broke me because I forgot between the year I did have one relationship in between, but the it was a uh it was fits to be another abusive relationship, and I had to fight that person one time. It was one fight. That person didn't get that person didn't get a chance to get no licks in. I just went ahead and did what I needed to do, and that person was running for their car. But I just thought, how time? You know, so that's what really made me ghost people. But like I said, my daughter was like a year and two months, and she was the make or break. She's the reason why I stopped ghosting. And she's the reason why I was able to really fall in love with this person. And this person fell in love with my child first. And, you know, and he cared about me. And so if she didn't have, he was there. You know, if she had to go to the doctor, he was there. And that was the makeup break, but but that's the makeup break that stopped me from ghosting. He had a positive because my mom.

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Intervention, so to speak. See, I in my running, in the in as I became an adult, the way that I would ghost people was very much similar

Alfonso On Dating And Self Sabotage

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to you. I wasn't a guy that gave second chances back then. Not at all. It would take a lot out of me to even reach out. You know, it's always been the man should approach the woman type situation. But for me, it took a lot for me to reach out to somebody to want to, you know, try to talk to them. Because I know my emotions were deeply hung up on a person. I might not say something to a person sometimes. Because I'm like, what if I get with them and it don't turn out to be nothing of you know what I think it should turn out to be like? Or, you know, I have all these extra thoughts, like, I don't know, I don't want to get in no bad relationship, but they do look nice. They seem like a nice person. So I was like self-sabotaging before I could even try to see if it could be a decent thing or not. Flight-wise would come, wouldn't even make it to like a relationship status. It would be like I was searching for any and every little thing that I would deem to be a no or a red flag to me. Uh I had to shake my head because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I was an asshole. I was straight up an asshole. If I slept with a woman and it was something, no matter how minuscule it was, I ghost right then. I mean, it was like the very next day, you would not get a phone call, you would not be able to get in contact with me, I'd block you, tell a security guard at my apartment complex, don't let her up or anything. You know, it was like total avoidance, one 180 from what the day before was. And it could have been something as small as something that was said or a reaction to something I said, and either thing, whatever it was, it could have even been how they were. Okay, I'm gonna give you an example without saying any names. This person, I don't know if they're watching it, they might know who they are from what I explained, but I'm not gonna say your name, I'm not putting you out there on Front Street. But this is for the listeners to understand what flight is. There was this woman I really liked, but years went by. I wouldn't talk to her. We were co-workers, and the one time I got the nerve to approach this woman, she was already in a relationship. And I think she had not too long ago got into this relationship. So actually I self-sabotaged myself so much I missed the opportunity to date her because I waited and procrastinated and rethought, overthought, and thought myself out of a possible relationship. So time went on, and I think years later, after that, she approached me and we started talking, and I was kind of like puzzled because I'm like, isn't she still in a relationship? She didn't mention anything about it. And I asked, I was like, Well, what happened to the relationship that you were in? You know, they're not together anymore. Okay, so I guess I was supposed to pick up on that soon as she started coming back, but I was slow to relationships because I hadn't had a whole lot of relationship experience, even that in my adult life, because I avoided relationships. So we got into a dating type thing. And one day she came over. I think her car broke down. So I was like, What you gonna do? You know, you gonna call Triple A? Or and she was kind of like, What you what you think I should do? I'm like, Call a Tul truck have your car take it to the shop. I mean, isn't that what everybody does, you know, when your car breaks down? But it was like, I was so relationship and emotionally unaware because of my trauma that I didn't know she was literally putting the keys of leadership in my hands. She wanted me to take control. She wanted me to handle her situation. She wanted to see what I was gonna do if I was man enough to take care of her. I mean, I did get her car to the shop and everything, but to me, that was a red flag. I didn't want somebody who was seemed clueless about what they needed to do. So I ghosted this poor woman, and that came back to haunt me later on because she was a really nice lady, and I didn't realize what she was doing, and I hated that I did that to her, and she's not the only one I did that to, ghosting and all that stuff. I've had an opportunity to be with some really nice women, and the trauma response of fleeing when you think you perceive a red flag, and it wasn't, but it was a red flag to me because it made me feel like she's trying to use me. That's what it was kind of feeling like. But that wasn't the case at all. So avoidance flight and emotional fight, flight kind of played both into my situation. It was it was also relational flight because I didn't want to continue this thing if that was the case. So I was like, I need to get out, you know. But in hindsight, looking at it, how I perceived things, I was already looking with one leg in the door on the way out as I entered into a possible relationship. I'm looking, I'm trying to see how to get out of this before we even call it a relationship. It could be a date. I'm looking for red flags or the date. Like, I'm not trying to be all this with you if you're gonna even do one thing out the way out of the ordinary.

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I'm not. I'm not. So that was a lot to share with you guys. That was a lot to share.

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It was hard. It's yeah, it's hard. It is. I know. But this is this is where when you share and you let it put it out there, this is where you get, you know, clarity, and this is where you start to release stuff that makes you feel a lot better to move on. You know, and that's what you have to do. That's what your dermates will tell you. You know what I'm saying?

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You know, so this I use myself as an example. You know, take your walk other people's stuff, right? You know, to look at me and say, dang, is that what I've been doing? To to be introspective, I give myself as an example so you can be introspective and try to line up and say, okay, I did this. Is that lining up with what he said he did? You know, so you can have something to compare with. Because as a survivor, you isolate and you don't have anybody to compare yourself with the things that you do. So that's why I always say 100% disclosure on everything about me, my past, my history, whatever. I don't mind.

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Well, he'll be bad. People ask me. You know, it's always, you know, some technical difficulties. But just always know that when you're going through different scenarios of flight, you know, you have the relationship flight, you have the avoidance flight, you have different kinds of flights, and you have to make sure that, you know, that it's something, you know, that you prepare yourself. You make sure that everything that we have talked about, that you understood each one, which you know, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, it's so many different ones. And you want to make sure that you're paying attention so that you can know about the emotional flight, the relationship flight, the mental flight, your physical flight, because they all, you know, all these different flights, you know, they deal with the human body. And once you understand what you're going through, some of these things you can prohibit, you can prohibit them from happening. You know, they don't necessarily have to happen. You can prohibit them from happening because now you know and you have more control over what's going on and what is happening. So always know that you can, once you get with your derpies, you know, and understanding the different situations in life, then you can take control of what you're going. You don't really want to ghost people. You don't want to stay in tune because when you learn your box breathing, when you learn how to, when you learn what you're going through, then you won't have to worry about the physical flight. When you, you know, you can do the exercises and stuff like that. The emotional flight, you already know that these are the things that you can go through. The the relationship flight is how it works. Everybody we finish Mr. Pilt. It's different scenarios and different situations. Okay. No, we always hear you. You can be there to take control over the situation. Can you hear me? Let me see what's going on.

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Can you hear me now?

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Unless you finish Mr. Pilt.

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You cannot hear me now, right? Okay. Just in one thing.

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Okay, I can hear you. Yes.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

I can hear you. Okay, continue. Well, just pop out of here. Can you hear me still? Okay, I can hear you. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Okay. Yes. I don't know what's going on with my video, but I want to continue with the flight response and the relationships.

Empowerment Tools And Help Lines

SPEAKER_00 41:31

I was just saying that I give myself as an example so that others can have something to compare with. Because healing comes from when you speak out and you become empowered when you take control of your fate, of your destiny, if you will, by owning what happened to you, speaking out about it, and commanding what happens afterwards. You don't have to accept and sit back and say, Well, whoever is me. You know, I'm the only one going. I'm not, I'm not trying to hear that. I'm here to give you the tools that you need to be empowered, to to find your inspiration, to reach out to somebody to receive the help that you you need, whether it's car line, like the suicide and and crisis, a lifeline, which is 988, or if it's something else, you know, a domestic abuse line or childhood abuse line, or any other lines that we give out on this platform. I'm trying to reach you where you're at. And this platform is designed just for that. So we can have honest conversations. So we can be real with each other. I mean, truly real. Full disclosure, no holes barred. We're not trying to sugarcoat anything. We're trying to be most realistic as we can because that's what's going to get you over the hump. If if I was just to keep saying, everything's gonna be okay, you just have to put one foot in front of the other, you just have to take it one day at a time, you just have that I can hit you and beat you in the head with all the colloquialisms that we have in life, but that's not going to help you. The actual work and the things that we talk about on this platform will help flat out. The people that we bring on this show, they're testimonies of how they got over, how they overcame their traumas and now they're flourishing. I'm bringing that as an example to you. These are survivors, Dr. Marcus. That's coming on the show this coming Saturday. Small Dino, Ms. Small Dino, that's gonna be on the show the next week after. They are survivors. And they have amazing stories to tell. And information to give to you guys. We are here for you, basically. This is a service that we're not asked to give. We're not doing it for fame. We're not doing it for fortune. We're not doing it for accolades. We're not doing it just to say they're internet sensation or they're what do they call it? Mega streamers or whatever. We're not doing it for that. We're doing it for healing's sake. Because we want you guys to be healed. We want you guys to receive the healing that you deserve. That you're supposed to have. We want you to be the people that God created you to be. Can't be that when someone has taken a major portion of you and forced you to hide in silence, in fear. That's not who we were created to be. So we're here to have open dialogue. If you want to make a comment, you know, you can. We'll talk to you right here, right now. We're live. Even though we're almost out of time. You know, we had a lot to talk talk about tonight. Like always, we have a lot of information to give you before. Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

Yes, we'll talk to you right now, you know. And if you want to make a comment or you want to do anything, you know, just always remember, you know. And you can do it on, you know, all platforms because we're broadcasting on many different platforms and you can ask your questions. Whether it be Facebook, YouTube, Buzzsprout, uh Spotify, these are many different TikTok. You know, these are many different, these are different venues that we appetise across. So always remember that you can always, you know, you always ask questions any time of day, because we are looking at it and we can answer your questions,

Support The Show And What Is Next

SPEAKER_02 46:18

you know. And as we always say, you know, toward the end of the video, you know, we have to pay the, you know, in order to bring this to, you know, bills have to be paid. You know, we appreciate it if you visit wwwpilsemporium.com, you know, look at the merchandise. Everything is available to you for your Pils Emporium. Everything is, you know, towards what we do. It's a crystal form. You know, towards what we do. You know, is that you purchase a corner W Pilts. It'll help us, you know, AWS WW Pilz. Okay, soon.com. It'll jump us.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

You was going through the phone. Okay, she's handling business. I feel her. I feel it. Even though I'm having technical difficulties over here, she still takes. That's why I got this woman on the team. She handling business. She ain't letting this slide, y'all. She handling business. But uh, real quick, we only got like uh four a little over four minutes left. I want to let y'all know about next week. We have uh part three. This has been part two to the react series. Part three is called Enter at Your Own Risk. It's the fight response. We're digging into fight responses, aggression, anger, and what it means to stand your ground. If I don't know, I'm gonna just say this now because I don't want to get cut off before our time is up. So I'm gonna just say this right now. Um, Storm and I both thank you for being here. We'll see you next week on Terror of the Triumph. And remember, help is closer than you think. And I hope I get some technical help. So, man, y'all, y'all need to buy some of the merchandise on Terror to Triumph so we can buy better equipment. Help us help you, man. Help us help you. We try, we're doing it on a shoestring budget, but you can help us help you. You know, we laugh and joke about it. You know, we try to have a good time amidst the seriousness of this subject, but on on the real, we are we are very passionate about helping you guys because we know what it's like to come up through life without any type of help, suffering as we did. And uh that's a real thing. So it's in our hearts to reach out to you guys and help you. And that's why we do what we do. So help us to help you. You know, go on Pell Cymporium, check out this stuff I designed. You ain't gonna find this nowhere else. And if you do, it's a knockoff. I created all these designs myself. You can go there, purchase some stuff with the Terra to Triumph branding, and those sales go directly to help keep this podcast going. So, yeah, like Storm said, it'll help us pay the bills. You can also subscribe to our platform on Buzz Sprout. It's very cheap, it's only $10, and you will get some episodes that you do not catch with us on our regular platforms. You know, it's it's only on Buzz Sprout, our audio, main audio podcast host. So check us out, y'all. We we we're trying to be here for the long run, and we can't do it without your assistance. So we appreciate anything and everything that you can help us with. And Storm, do you have anything to say before we close out? We got like two and a half minutes.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

No, I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 50:03

You good? She's good, y'all. She good. When the storm is good, then the show is good, okay? So that means we're done for tonight.

Safety Reminders And Final Goodbye

SPEAKER_00 50:15

So remember, keep your heads on the swivel. In this climate, with the governments we have out in this world as a survivor, things are very tense for us, extremely tense. We're already in hyper-vigilance mode, always looking over our shoulder. And now, with situations such as in America with ICE, with the situation over in Palestine with Israel, with the situation with America fighting Iran and Russia versus Ukraine and United Nations and NATO and their clandestine activities.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

So when you reach out to us and you subscribe to Buzz Buzz Sprout, which is only $10 a month, know that, you know, you can get everything that you need to hear, everything that will help you, all the tools that you need for survival. Even you can subscribe on YouTube. So just remember to catch us on these different platforms so that we can be here for you. Other than that, we signing out saying thank you. And we look forward to seeing you on Tuesday at 9:30 Eastern Central Standard Time. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 51:36

Anyway, God bless y'all. We love y'all. Y'all have a good night. We'll see you. Well, have a good weekend. We'll see you Tuesday. I'll probably try to finish up that up either Tuesday or Wednesday. I don't know. I'm thinking one of those days we're gonna have an extra episode. I don't want to finish it off that quick, though, the series. We got two more episodes for you guys. But I'm gonna try to undo that for you. And if I do both episodes back to back, that's fine. But I want you guys to be safe out there. It's a very tumultuous world that we're living in right now. And I want you guys to be safe, okay? At all means. You have all this new stuff coming up about human trafficking. Who's doing the human trafficking, government being involved in human trafficking? We we have to take better care of ourselves out here. We have to be aware of our surroundings, especially how they're trying to kidnap us, especially with our women going to the grocery stores. They're putting chemicals on the handles of our cars. So they're rushing us and putting us in vans and kidnapping us. It could be on a black Oregon market or just human trafficking, sex trafficking. We have to be vigilant, you guys. We have to be careful. We have to be, and especially with ICE out here, if things weren't bad enough as it is. So the climate of our world is a very disturbed one right now. And we have to have to protect our children, we have to protect our family and friends, and we have to protect ourselves. So be aware. Be aware of your surroundings. Put your phone down when you step outside of a building, when you went somewhere and you come back to your car, put your phone down. Check out your surroundings. Is it an unmarked van with no windows parked close to you? Don't go to your car then. You know, go back in the building. Talk to somebody, get a security guard to come out to your car, help see you off, or go with somebody. Go with somebody to a store. Nowadays you can't you can't do this and trust that everything's gonna be all fine and be totally oblivious to how things are being handled in this country. And in countries all over the globe, this stuff is going on. We're not isolated from this, you know. I just want you guys to be safe. I love y'all. I want y'all to keep coming back to get the healing that you need. I can't do that if you're kidnapped or you're unaligned. So be careful, y'all. We love you and be safe. We'll see you Tuesday. Take care.